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“The only time we ever know what’s really going on is when the rug’s been pulled out and we can’t find anywhere to land. We use these situations either to wake ourselves up or to put ourselves to sleep. Right now — in the very instant of groundlessness — is the seed of taking care of those who need our care and of discovering our goodness.” — Pema Chödrön

Zen Buddhist teacher Roshi Joan Halifax has a beautiful line in this meditation on encountering grief. I invite you to take a moment to savor it:

“Whatever you’re feeling in your heart, [notice] how the body feels as you consider the possibility that grief can be a profoundly humanizing experience and bring greater depth into our lives.”

This week’s On Being conversation offers some starting points for working through this possibility. Krista spoke with musician/artist Devendra Banhart about Pema Chödrön’s When Things Fall Apart in a lively spiritual book club of sorts, recorded from their respective homes. The book has been a balm to them and countless others who have leaned on Chödrön’s small work of great beauty during difficult times. Banhart has described his copy as a literary version of an “in case of emergency break glass” box.

At the heart of the book is the simple idea that things fall apart, which Chödrön, a Tibetan Buddhist teacher, frames as both our reality and a path toward healing. “We think that the point is to pass the test or to overcome the problem, but the truth is that things don’t really get solved. They come together and they fall apart,” she writes. “Then they come together again and fall apart again. It’s just like that. The healing comes from letting there be room for all of this to happen: room for grief, for relief, for misery, for joy.”

This week, I’m finding solace in seeing even moments of frustration and futility as the seeds of healing — opportunities to understand my own humanity, as Halifax’s meditation also suggests. And I’m savoring moments of joy and levity, which feel more fleeting and precious than before. All things, good and terrible, fall apart. And, as Banhart says, “This time will pass ... This thing we’re going through, this pandemic, it will fall apart.”

In the meantime, we always have the option to keep our eyes open and aware — to all that hurts, to all that is here, all that is now.

Kristin Lin
Editor, The On Being Project

P.S. — We’re continuing some of this week’s book club discussion across our social channels. Join us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. And you’re always welcome to share your own reflections with me via email: [email protected]

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When Things Fall Apart

In this “spiritual book club,” Krista and musician/artist Devendra Banhart read from and reflect on Pema Chödrön’s small book of great beauty.

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